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James S.
Sep 18, 2018

Lock-in question: Lens placement?

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Edited: Sep 18, 2018

Opened and wore the gift pair of glasses today. Love the look and design!

 

I noticed that other reviewers had their phantom lens more to the right of their pupil, which seems to be how it was designed, but mine sits a few millimeters from the center of it, which caused a lot of eye strain. I wanted to check if the gifts were just sent randomly without customization, or if I need to submit a ticket to get that issue remedied before the real product ships?

 

Another note: the glass seems to blur on the right side of the right lens, which seems to cause a bit of strain as well. Is that intended to help focus on the display?

Mosea Manna
Sep 18, 2018Edited: Sep 19, 2018

 

Hey James! Just opened and wore my pair for a little bit and experienced the same thing that you were describing. Also had a similar question about the blurred view that kinda makes me nauseous - this was hard to capture, but I think what's causing the blurry effect is actually the little magnifying bubble on the phantom display causing the whole lens to appear warped or like there's a prescription on it.

Mosea Manna
Sep 18, 2018

 

 

Mosea Manna
Sep 18, 2018

My question btw was - Is this "magnified" area supposed to be this large? And if so, is it just going to take time to get used to it, or will this effect go away once a working display is shown?

James S.
Sep 18, 2018

Thanks for sharing similarities, Mosea. Hopefully it's just a bad batch. Looking at the models they show on their product page it seems like the phantom lens should be perpendicular to the lens rather than parallel. Maybe these are just messed up trials that they decided to send out so we have something physical to start exploring.

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James S.
Sep 18, 2018Edited: Sep 18, 2018

Throwing in some pics for reference

 

 

 

 

Perspective showing the distortion of the right lens

 

 

Comparison to the left

 

 

 

 

Mosea Manna
Sep 19, 2018Edited: Sep 19, 2018

Hey James! Just confirming that my lens are like yours. Do you also have perfect vision/no prescription? Amazing pictures btw, without them I'd wouldn't be properly able to explain what we're seeing.

 

@Corey | Founder |

Can we get someone to kindly chime in on the two pictures above and confirm it's just a small fluke in the very challenging manufacturing process?

Adam DB
Sep 19, 2018

I'm guessing you don't need prescription glass for your right eye? It definitely looks like you're near-sighted on that eye, going by the distortion, but then you wouldn't be complaining…?

James S.
Sep 19, 2018

@Mosea Manna Yup, no prescription on the lenses. Perfect vision etc.

Take a look at Josh's comment and possible reasoning for the issue. Hopefully something we'll be able to convey well enough on the surveys they'll be sending out.

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Josh Quillin [Mod]
Sep 19, 2018

Every single participant may receive wholly unique units for their review in these beginning stages of the Alpha. For instance here with Experiment 2, testing the "distractability" of the Phantom Lens and how many tertiary people notice it, with minor adjustments in location and lens creation techniques we'll be able to find out which ones are viable and which are a total wash. The "bubble" around the display isn't a reflection on the final product, and as we try to stress as often as possible, everything is subject to change this early. Please evaluate each unit you receive on it's own merits when you get your survey by email!

James S.
Sep 19, 2018

Awesome, thanks Josh! I can totally work with that answer. Wasn't aware there will be surveys, but I'll definitely be looking forward to participating.

Goh Hock Leong
Sep 20, 2018

I just received my pair. I do not notice any phantom lens or distortion or anything different in my lens. It looks like a normal lens. Is that supposed to be the case?

Adam DB
Sep 20, 2018

Photos...?

Josh Quillin [Mod]
Sep 20, 2018

If that's what you asked for, then yeah

Goh Hock Leong
Sep 20, 2018

@Josh Quillin [Mod]

No. I did not ask for no prism. I emailed separately regarding this concern. The response from Laforge: "At present we are researching ways to embed our optics in prescriptions such as yours. That’s the reason your glasses does not include our optics. I apologize for not alerting you to this before you received your glasses."

 

I thought my prescription is pretty common with around -400 sphere and -100 cylinder.

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Nebojsa Surlan
Sep 22, 2018

I received mine today, Frame 5. Wearing them and walking did require some getting use to, but otherwise I am very happy with them. No prescription on glasses. Also, I really like gray color.

 

 

Josh Quillin [Mod]
Sep 22, 2018Edited: Sep 22, 2018

Hmm. So far, that's at least four pairs with oddly centered displays and two pairs missing them completely that I know of. Good to know the final fulfillment center is having QC issues. Thanks for everyone's input, hope to see more as we go!

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